1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,200 I think people want to reach the other side because it proves that there is another world. 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:18,560 The first way to look at a dream is literal. Take it seriously. And if you don't understand 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,560 it, long it over. 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:26,560 I thought everybody saw Spirit and Auras until later in life. I was told not everybody sees. 5 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:38,160 From the boundaries of the universe, with the depth of your soul, embark on a journey 6 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:45,280 through the unknown and unexplained as we explore mysteries, magic and miracles. 7 00:00:45,280 --> 00:01:00,960 Hello and welcome. I'm Patrick McNeigh. Today we'll probe into the unconscious mind through 8 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:07,960 the world of dreams and we look into spirits that revisit this world. But first, Jim and 9 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:16,240 Susan will take us on a journey to the world beyond through a sales. 10 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Reaching the world beyond is a mystery to some and a solution to others. Could a sales 11 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:29,920 be a second chance to resolve lingering conflicts with the dead? 12 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Our fascination with death and the hereafter stems from various instances, from seeing 13 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:43,760 ghosts to living through near death experiences. Some people feel the need to know more about 14 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:49,840 the mysterious world of the spirits. Rose Clifford and Mark Edward are two well-known 15 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,960 mediums who help people to contact spirits in the other world. 16 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:01,800 I think people want to reach the other side because it proves that there is another world. 17 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:08,080 I think that in the world we live in, people want to escape. They want answers to questions. 18 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:15,080 Spirits of ancestors, I call you forward, let my words go forth and let us know you are 19 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,880 here. 20 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,480 So all kinds of things can happen in a sales. You can have physical phenomena with things 21 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:30,480 moving or spirits appearing, noises, apports, things appearing, materializations. 22 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,400 People have various reasons why they consult mediums. Some hope to communicate with their 23 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,600 loved ones to be reassured that they still exist. 24 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:53,600 You have a gentleman who comes and he has a beard. He was bearded. I feel him standing 25 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:59,160 behind you. His name was Christopher, I feel. 26 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:05,720 There are two ways in which spirits communicate through mediums. One way is mental contact, 27 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:11,080 which is known as clairvoyant mediumship. A group of people will come together to form 28 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,080 a spirit circle. It usually entails short messages from spirits. 29 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:23,080 Now the name Mariette is coming from an age long spirit. Marien or Mariette. She belongs 30 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:34,040 to somebody here. I see the face of the spirit coming from the other side. Sometimes I don't. 31 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:42,040 It's a voice I hear telling me who they are. I don't think they enter the body. They enter 32 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:48,360 your consciousness. I can't see because the spirit is not physical. I feel the connection 33 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,360 comes here in the mind. 34 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:59,880 The most spectacular form of communication with the spirits is trans-sitting. The medium 35 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:06,880 acts as a channel for the spirit literally taking over the persona of the deceased person. 36 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Charles are you in this room with us now? 37 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:18,320 Well that's a very specific area of mediumship and it's not to be used generally because 38 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,520 it's quite dangerous for the medium. One simple thing, you're not supposed to be touched 39 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,760 when you're in a trans state. So and you have to have people there who know what's 40 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,800 happening because you are not in control of it. 41 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:39,520 Although Mark deals with the more entertaining side of seos, there is still more to it than 42 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,440 meets the eye. 43 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:48,440 We will try to cross the ethereal path and to reach the other side. The other world, 44 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,440 which I believe is parallel to ours, offers this idea that well maybe there's something 45 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,440 else. 46 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:02,440 Charles, will you speak through me to the group? 47 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:11,840 He says, Patricia, I forgive you. I think after a seance people are in a trans state 48 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:25,440 empowered to maybe accept life more. 49 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,440 The guardian spirit is a concept that has been with mankind since the beginning of time. 50 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:36,560 The Chinese called it the great person. The Hindus know it as the chosen god and the Greek 51 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:42,600 mystics knew it as the luminous self. More recently, the idea of the guardian spirit 52 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,720 is known as the silent master. 53 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:55,000 I can see how we could manage route a guiding spirit. Yes, each one has them. Whether we 54 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,200 listen to them or not, that's another thing. 55 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:04,840 If you believe that death is the end, the seance could change your mind. Fear of death can be 56 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:11,200 released once we realize that death is merely an ongoing part of our spiritual lives. We 57 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:17,520 cannot bring back the dead. Perhaps a seance though opens the possibility of life after 58 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,920 death. We could still communicate with them. We just have to go about it in a different 59 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:29,920 way. 60 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:36,920 Sold at most toy stores, the Ouija board might look like a harmless game, but some believe 61 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,880 it can have serious implications. Those who have used it as a channel to contact spirits 62 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:53,360 believe in its abilities, but many claim there is danger in allowing spirits with evil intentions 63 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:59,640 to enter. While answers to your questions can be a simple yes or no, there are times 64 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:06,680 when names and dates are spelled out. Maybe it's mine never matter. Maybe it's not. 65 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,280 At night, when our subconscious mind takes over, a delicate and intricate network of 66 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:22,280 dreams are woven. Their hidden meaning can be revealed, but you must first remember them. 67 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,600 Whether you know it or not, or even if you like it or not, every time you close your 68 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:34,640 eyes, you dream. As human beings, we dream because that's what nature intended. We cannot 69 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:42,400 not dream. Dogs dream, cats dream, elephants dream, even whales dream. But why do we dream? 70 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:51,640 According to Dr. Arthur Bernard, we dream to wake up to a greater mind. What's the first 71 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:58,640 way to look at a dream? The first way to look at a dream is literal, in the sense that 72 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:08,280 the dream may say exactly what it's saying and nothing more. So if you have a dream of 73 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:14,400 hitting the lottery and you see the six numbers, don't go any further, because fortunes have 74 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:21,400 been made this way. I asked Dr. Bernard to explain what the most important aspect is when conceiving 75 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:28,880 one's dream. Take it seriously. And if you don't understand it, mull it over, over, over. 76 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,680 But the most important aspect is the feeling you have in the dream. Klein and mine had 77 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:40,680 a dream, he was walking down the street, something tapped him on the shoulder, he turned around 78 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:47,680 and it was death. Black, clipped, black, hurt his skull and he woke up terrified. And he 79 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,680 hadn't been feeling well, so he went to the doctor and doctor said, sure enough, medication 80 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:56,040 I've been giving you is having a violent reaction and it's good that you came in, you could 81 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:01,720 have died from this. People often talk about the power of dreams. How dreams can guide 82 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:07,320 you or help clarify questions or thoughts. But can an individual make their dreams help 83 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:13,040 themselves or heal themselves? They could try, they could try and get healing information. 84 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,280 The Greeks had dream temples in which they went there and they spent two months and they 85 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,560 prepared themselves to have these healing dreams. And these temples lasted for a thousand 86 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:29,560 years and we have writings, inscriptions and people were actually healed in their dreams. 87 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,520 I wondered then if there could be a direct correlation between one's dreams and one's 88 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:40,800 physical body. Oh absolutely, there's a close connection. Dreams relate to every aspect of 89 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,800 the human body and human behavior and the emotional system. 90 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Dr. Bernard holds frequent workshops to awaken the healing power in dreams. The workshops 91 00:09:53,000 --> 00:10:00,000 focus on group dream interpretation and actualizing the dream. I shared a repetitive dream I'd 92 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:06,160 had since childhood. Well actually my dream is sort of like the movie The Body Snatchers 93 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,080 prior to the movie and it scares me so I leave the house and I go to my neighbors and my 94 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,680 neighbors are not really my neighbors even though they look like it. After I explained 95 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:21,520 my dream, the other participants took on the dream as if it were their own. They shared 96 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:28,520 how they felt in my dream. The next day workshop participants returned and paint their dreams. 97 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,160 Dr. Bernard showed us some of the images other dreamers created. 98 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:41,160 This is a woman who asked her dreams why she was so lonely and she had this dream in 99 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:48,760 which she was in a beautiful situation, a cave, as the group worked on the dream in 100 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:55,760 related to the need of self-love. This was a dream man who had a lot of fear and of 101 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:02,760 course he dreams of a lion and the dream was trying to get him in touch with his, well 102 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:09,840 what does a lion stand for? King of the jungle! A lion stands for courage. 103 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Is it true that people can have psychic dreams? People can have psychic dreams because at 104 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:26,120 some level in the mind there's no time. All time is occurring at that moment. We were 105 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:33,120 sleeping, we were real great psychics. See the subconscious mind knows more, it sees 106 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:40,160 more. It's like how do you explain the phenomenon? A woman dreams that her son was killed in Vietnam. 107 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:45,320 He stepped on a landmine and he was killed. Three days later she gets a notice from the 108 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:52,320 army that her son was killed in Vietnam. Now how could the mind see that thousands of miles 109 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:59,400 away? The reason is that your mind is not just confined to your brain, it's a giant field. 110 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:09,400 There are clairvoyant dreams and there are telepathic dreams and we just can see, we 111 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:14,920 see greater distances in dreams. Some people can do it when they're awake. We're just 112 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,920 all more psychic when we're sleeping. 113 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:29,320 So how do you remember your dreams the next morning? 114 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,360 Tell yourself when you go to sleep you're going to remember dreams and when you wake 115 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:41,240 up lie still. Don't jump out of bed and say what am I going to do today or what's coming 116 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:47,600 up. Just lie there quietly, keep your eyes closed and say to yourself what was I dreaming? 117 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:53,880 Some people don't remember their dreams because they don't take them seriously. They don't 118 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:58,160 feel they're important. I think women are more closer to the dream where women take 119 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:05,160 their internal feelings more seriously. After we shared our dreams Dr. Bernard hypnotized 120 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 us. 121 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Tonight this wisdom all knowing portion of your mind will send you a dream. 122 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:25,600 That will help bring the healing that your inner heart desires. 123 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:33,920 Wherever your subconscious mind takes you tonight sweet dreams. 124 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:46,240 Each of us can be considered a ripped van winkle idling away precious hours every night 125 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:52,800 sleeping. Although he went to the extreme sleeping for 100 years a 70 year old person 126 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:58,920 sleeping an average of 8 hours a night has spent almost a third of life sleeping. In 127 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:04,480 other words a grandmother has spent as much time sleeping as her college age grandchild 128 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:11,480 has lived. Of this time 7 straight years day and night is spent dreaming. 129 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:19,480 While some spirits are at peace others return to haunt their previous dwellings. Hauntings 130 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:27,160 can be innocent and brief but there are those which include ongoing apparitions, noises 131 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,480 and moving objects. 132 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,960 Hollywood has given us our fair share of demons, exorcisms and hauntings. In real life however 133 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,540 there are stories that make these movies seem pale in comparison. 134 00:14:41,540 --> 00:14:46,980 Harry Shepard is a da haunter or as he likes to call it a spirit investigator. His everyday 135 00:14:46,980 --> 00:14:50,680 life deals with ghosts and spirits. 136 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,080 Well since I was 5 years old I've been able to see them. I thought everybody saw spirit 137 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:03,080 and auras until later in life. I was told Harry what you and I see not everybody sees. 138 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,720 To me it's a natural thing. It's natural. 139 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,040 An inborn instinct of fear anything we cannot explain has made us suspicious of any strange 140 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,440 phenomenon especially ghosts. 141 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:21,040 To accept the unknown, to accept something that you can't see is quite difficult in this 142 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:26,200 culture. All of our culture and all of our social life we're taught if we can't eat it, 143 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,400 kill it or destroy it, it isn't so. 144 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,280 There are areas of the opinion that ghosts are merely spirits that have not accepted 145 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,040 the fact that they had to leave the earthly plane. He also believes ghosts roam most 146 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:43,400 houses or buildings. We just don't know about them because they are quiet. 147 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,760 Only when they become active do people sense this like doors banging, TVs clanking on and 148 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,400 off, changing channels. Then they think oh my God it's going to come out of the wall 149 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,040 and get me. 150 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,840 There's reassurance in the fact that most spirits are harmless and have no intention 151 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,840 to make life difficult for people. In fact they are often around us for our own well-being. 152 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:10,480 Well the spirit is preferably content on the other side but he feels he has to stay to 153 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:16,960 nurture and to comfort the one on the living side. 154 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,360 When sudden inexplicable things occur in houses, Harry and a team of experts are normally 155 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,800 called to investigate. The investigation is a team effort. 156 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:31,520 We usually use a team of people between four and eight and each one of these has a different 157 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:37,800 specialty. Some can see, some can hear, some can sense. 158 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,800 Everybody in the team is essential to gather any information on the strange phenomena. 159 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:47,920 Some people can sense the present in spirit but not see it. Some people can see it and 160 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:53,240 not sense it. I can walk into a residence and see if there is anybody there or if there 161 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:59,040 is anybody there. They can appear any way that they want to. They can appear as a last 162 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:05,360 in their physical life or they can appear as a cloud except the spirit individual. 163 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:11,360 It is more than curiosity that moves people to call Harry to investigate any spirit presence 164 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:19,880 in their house. We tell them what they, who is there and why they're there. Most of the 165 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,440 time they are there but they behave themselves the spirit that is. 166 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,920 Even with the knowledge that spirits are around us and present in our houses, it is only when 167 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:35,120 these spirits become troublesome that a de-haunting becomes necessary. The process to remove these 168 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:41,960 spirits is far easier than we believe. Well we ask it to leave. Simple as that. 169 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:49,360 Would you mind leaving? There is no ceremony, there is no ritual that we go through. We 170 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:54,440 simply ask it to leave. And why would a spirit say it wasn't wanted anyhow? 171 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:59,980 One of the most notorious cases of spirit investigation is the John John case in Los 172 00:17:59,980 --> 00:18:05,040 Angeles. Strange things occurred in and around the house. The only thing left to do was to 173 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:10,840 call a team of spirit investigators. Something completely unexpected happened. 174 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,880 It started out where they were taking Polaroid pictures and by accident one of them asked 175 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:22,680 questions. And when the Polaroid picture was developed there was an answer there. 176 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,920 The phenomena of ghosts leave us with little proof and sometimes just the idea that it 177 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:33,600 was all a hallucination. The only physical proof is what they give us, like the pictures 178 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,640 with the writing on them. What's the chance that you would get that exact answer with 179 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:44,120 that exact picture at that exact time? Impossible. 180 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Over the years Harry has built up a collection of voice recordings, those of spirits. At 181 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,160 the time of the recording the investigators wouldn't hear the voices but when the tape 182 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,640 is played back on the recorder the ghost voices are distinct and definite in their answers. 183 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:07,640 The child's grace and sitting on top of this grace was the spirit form of a child. When 184 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:15,080 we put the tape back down to him he pulled it almost out of our hands and we get this 185 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:22,520 little whisper, I'm scared. The critics have found every possible excuse to disprove the 186 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:31,560 existence of spirits. They can always find skeptics to criticize everything in life, 187 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:37,040 even death. You would think that Harry's job is horrifying but in fact he enjoys it. He 188 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,280 sees it as his mission in life to prove to people that there is nothing to be frightened 189 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:47,780 about. We do this work for nothing as a public service. The more proof we can gather the 190 00:19:47,780 --> 00:19:53,780 better we feel we can serve the public. We do leave them with an idea that hey maybe 191 00:19:53,780 --> 00:19:59,680 there is something more to life than life. Harry views the spirit world as a natural 192 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,460 part of our lives. He believes that it is the physical part of existence that is merely 193 00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:09,620 temporary. We have all as many lives and we've got all as many more. The other reason 194 00:20:09,620 --> 00:20:14,820 that we're here is to learn certain lessons, certain goals that we cannot learn on a nonphysical 195 00:20:14,820 --> 00:20:21,100 reality such as the spirit dimension. Ghosts and apparitions have given rise to legends 196 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:25,700 and have created their own place in history. Maybe we can learn to accept ghosts as part 197 00:20:25,700 --> 00:20:31,860 of our everyday lives. After all if we think about it what are ghosts but the mere shadows 198 00:20:31,860 --> 00:20:48,780 of their former selves. The power of thought and communication transcends our own awareness 199 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:55,580 in whatever form it chooses to take. I'm Patrick Magney. Join me next time for more mysteries, 200 00:20:55,580 --> 00:20:57,380 magic and miracles.